What are some regional driving quirks in your area?

What are some regional driving quirks in your area?

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So I've been asking a lot of questions about driving recently, and the main reason is that when I'm driving is the only time my mind is uncluttered enough to consider BBA questions.

In various areas of the country (and world), there are sometimes uncommon laws or interpretations of the laws. Sometimes these are as simple as having different terms related to driving. Other times they are maneuvers or habits that would be considered odd, in poor style, or ridiculous in other places.

One very basic example is that in Ohio, they have a thing they call a berm. I think it's basically a shoulder area of the road. Here in Maryland, no one has even heard of a berm.

In many areas of Pennsylvania, turns from the shoulder (going around traffic stopped at a light) are illegal, largely because the shoulder is often used by Amish horse and buggy vehicles.

A more significant example is the act of passing a left-turning vehicle on the shoulder, which seems to be somewhat localized. Here in Maryland, on a road that has one lane going in each direction and no center turn lane, it is common practice to go around a vehicle that is stopped in the lane, waiting to make a left. We just keep going full speed onto the shoulder or (sometimes, some drivers) partly onto the grass to go around this vehicle. When my cousins came here from California about 10 years ago (yea I know, it's old info so may be wrong now), they were shocked by this practice, yet basically everyone here does it. We also go around traffic that is stopped at a light onto the shoulder to make a right on red. I don't know if these things are currently common in other areas.

One thing that seems to be a dilemma everywhere I go is related to two vehicles simultaneously making left turns across the same intersection, and applies especially to roadways with a center median. In your area, is it more common to pass each other going straight ahead and then make the turn, or cut the turn more sharply and pass each other on the opposite side as the technique as above, while traveling diagonally across the intersection? If there are dedicated turn lanes with green arros traffic signals, passing diagonally is the only way to do it. But in less busy intersections where there isn't a turn lane or indicator, how is it normally done in your area? At less-busy intersections, it makes more sense to pass the other driver first and then turn. But in a more busy intersection, this technique could theoretically result in a gridlock. Passing the other driver first means that you don't have to try to peek around them to find out if it's safe to proceed (no oncoming vehicles), and gives you much more room to navigate the intersection. Here in MD, most people pass diagonally, with the occasional driver trying to pass then turn, which confuses everyone in the intersection, even though it really shouldn't. I don't know if we have laws about the correct way to make this maneuver, but I assume we do... I just don't know what they are. Everyone has to take drivers' ed classes to get a license here, but they really aren't useful or helpful because they cover mostly common-knowledge and common-sense basics.

In some states, they have minimum and maximum speeds on highways. Some states have separate speed limits for trucks and cars on one highway. Some states require trucks to use specific lanes on highways.

What's unique about how people drive in your area? If you have something you think might be unique, please post it even if you're not sure, and we can all discuss how that scenario works in our locality.

Looking forward to some interesting conversation on this one!!

Asked by R. Neil Covington in Cars at 1:25am on May 2nd, 2008
Ryan Lighton 1637
Answered at 2:50pm on June 2nd, 2008
I've lived in Chigcago, Massachusetts, and California (currently). When I'm turning left w/o a signal (in the scenario you described) I proceed as if I was in a left turn lane (by passing diagonally) I have never even seen another driver (anywhere) try to proceed by passing the person across from them. Also, passing a left-turning vehicle on the shoulder is not localized. I do that too.

When at a 4-way stop often times the driver with the right of way will be tentative (fearing you will speed out in front of them) I often signal to them that I see them by flashing my high-beams. However I've noticed that not many Californians understand me! I learned to flash my high beams while living on the east coast, where flashing your lights is often used.
John Supp 2272
Answered at 1:22pm on May 30th, 2008
In southern Maryland, the great technological innovation known as the turn signal, has yet to be culturally accepted. At least that's the best theory I have. I used to live in SE PA, and the prevalent non-use of turn signals down here was an initial shock, and is still a constant pain in the butt.
Unknown Brain 1710
Answered at 7:10am on May 11th, 2008
In PA there is rarely turning from the shoulder even when there is right on red allowed. This bowthers me since Im actually from MD. I am just used to turning from the shoulder. I do have to watch out for Amish though unlike I had to do in MD. The reason I turn from the shoulder though is because I have been behind plenty of people who turn from the road (and often at the last minute) and is makes me have to slam on my brakes so as to not ram them. I think that is careless and that there is really no reason to stop the flow of traffic and risk an accident by turning from off the road when there is a nice wide shoulder proiveded. Also, I have found that in PA a lot of drivers stop at a yield sign. They are given a long merge lane and yet they stop completely at the yield sign and cut over the solid white line when there is a break in traffic. Ironically I think I have seen more people around my house stop at yields then stop signs!
Unknown Brain 1224
Answered at 6:30pm on May 8th, 2008
When I lived in Texas, it is legal to cross lanes when turning in either direction in the middle of an intersection.

I've seen in rural areas that people pull over when using a cell phone which I think should be required.

I've also seen that people not use turn signals in intersections.
Danielle Shanley 2399 Brainpower Score
Answered at 12:37pm on May 3rd, 2008
David...I grew up in MA and driving in the city is CRAZY!!!!! I know exactly what you mean by the "shadow". For those not in the New England Area...there is a word for Mass Drivers up here....MassHole...that about sums up how they drive.

I live in the "country" in NH now and on our "backroads" people have the tendancy to drive in the middle of the road when there is no oncomming traffic. I assume it is because the edges of the roads usually drop off (that's why I do it anyway).
Darren Rye 2391
Answered at 12:12pm on May 2nd, 2008
In the UK, our motorways (highways) almost all have a hard-shoulder (i don't know why it is hard) and it is against the law to use it unless in emergencies. The only vehicles allowed are those that have broken down, and the emergency services if they are on a call. Our crossroads (intersections) all have a specific rule about whether to pass the car before or after the turn depending on the space, but it is different for each one.

Since moving to Coventry in the Midlands of England (from where i used to live, just south of London) for university, one thing has really got on my nerves, peopl not indicating (signalling) when making a turn and assuming that the pedestrian knows of their intentions. I even question some drivers when i am a passenger, and they normally reply that they are in the turn only lane, and i have to point out that the pedestrian doesn't know what lane is what.
Cameron Trickey 2333
Answered at 11:29am on May 2nd, 2008
I'm still blown away by exits and merging lanes onto the highways in this country. To me they make no sense. They give you an exit after a merge with a mere 100 yards or so to try and fight your way over or onto. In all the other countries I've visited, you exit before the merge, stopping any near misses or resulting bottlenecks from everyone fighting to get on or off.

In South Africa where you have only a single lane in each direction outside of the cities the shoulder is always used, by cars and sixteen wheelers a like. Going up hills or around blind corners you need to jump onto the shoulder just to be safe, because you never know what's coming around the corner. This past easter weekend the country was commended for taking fatalities down by 51 to 199 deaths for a three day period. Not sure if that's quirky, but you pay attention while you drive!
David Souza 2399 Brainpower Score
Answered at 9:47am on May 2nd, 2008
One interesting law I saw in a foreign county (in Europe) was that buses have the right of way anytime anywhere. It's crazy and the bus drivers get on this power trip where they think they are above the law just because the law favors them.

In MA, you can drive on the shoulder if traffic is bad enough, totally allowed in some areas such as New Bedford. They also have other less legal maneuvers such as the Boston crawl; where you back your car up on a one way street if you need to go on the opposite direction. They also have what they call the Shadow; let's see.... imagine you are on a busy two way road and you want to make a left turn. The car ahead of you is waiting for traffic to clear so he can make the same turn. When he does you go right next to his left side thus mimicking his movement and becoming his shadow. If the oncoming traffic hits anyone it will be him and not you. Does that make sense. It's easier to draw a diagram than explain it with words.

In FL as you can imagine we have a bunch of old people, old as pushing 142 years old and still driving or trying to drive. They cause many accidents and just as you see in the movies they have big cars they can barely see above the steering wheel. The drive back and forth from lane to lane because they can't see well. They also put their cars on Drive instead of Reverse and drive through store fronts and garages. I have personally seen people working at the DMV here in Florida look the other way as the old couple are trying to take their vision test and not pass at all. Scary!
Unknown Brain 2394
Answered at 7:25am on May 2nd, 2008
In Montana, we HAVE TO stop for pedestrians if they are crossing at an intersection. The law is enforced, although it rarely needs to be. In all states (I think), pedestrians have the right-of-way, but in Montana most drivers are very respectful of that. We see many signs that read "STOP WHEN OCCUPIED." Even where there is no sign, we stop. Sometimes we stop even when the person isn't crossing at an intersection. We Montanans are rarely in a rush to get somewhere, we're used to being stopped for up to 17 minutes for a passing train, so stopping for pedestrians is no big deal and well, it's just the way it is here. Usually the person walking will show a wave of "thank you" to the driver who stops for them.
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