Our tax system explained in beer?

Our tax system explained in beer?

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I think this should be sent to every single household and/or be published in every school. What say you?

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.

The fifth would pay $1.



The sixth would pay $3.

The seventh would pay $7.

The eighth would pay $12.

The ninth would pay $18.

The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.



So, that's what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you are all such good customers,' he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of your beer by $20’. Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.

So, the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair share?' They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.



So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).

The sixth would now pay $2 instead of $3 (33% savings).

The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings).

The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).

The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).

The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).



Each of the six was better off than before. And, the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. 'I only got a dollar out of the $20,' declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, 'but he got $10!' 'Yeah, that's right,' exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a Dollar, too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!' 'That's true!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!' 'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!' The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.



The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists, and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.



David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D. Professor of Economics



For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.

Asked by Jim Williams in Economics at 4:08am on November 13th, 2012
Zak Khaliq 2376
Answered at 8:53pm on January 23rd, 2023
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Kasim K 1908
Answered at 8:43pm on August 20th, 2013
People that support this theory have bought into the everyone can be super rich theory with some hard work. Most of the hardest working people on earth like coal miners will never be trillionaires. You have a system that does not allow the poor to enter into the extremely wealthy circle. These circles are so wealthy and exclusionary that you would have to invent something that changed the world such as Bill Gates or Steve Jobs with knowledge or goods that no one has and everyone needs and even they did so by violating anti-trust laws and excluding others by making their products exclusionary. This in itself is a one in a billion stroke of luck and genius. In addition, even Steve Jobs and Bill Gates are not like Rockerfellar rich. By estimates, they are not even close. That is exclusionary because they own everything, they are trillion dollar rich, 7 trillion dollar rich by what people have estimated. This goes for any large dictatorship in many countries such as Saudis Arabia where your blood line deems you worthy of being a billionaire. In my town, the biggest land owner does not like me for some reason, so he makes up excuses not to rent to me for my gym. So I will have a very big problem as his real estate is in a prime area that I would do well in, if I try another area my business has a much higher chance to fail in a low prospective area. Even if I could rent from him, if I do not get a loan, I will not be able to afford even a tiny gym if I saved up for years. In addition, even if I were fortunate enough to create a gym chain by the time I was old and gray, I would most likely not be billionaire rich and or trillionaire rich. Now imagine the reality of if you had a bunch of people who did not like black people, or having a theory (Capitalism) where it is necessary to have a poor population, you would exclude so many from potential wealth. This has created the travesty of the black "ghetto". The poverty stricken lack of fairly funded neighborhoods littered with strip joints and liquor stores which are even run by other than black people. Once there is fairness in lending and distribution of wealth, then one can say, hey you have no excuse not to succeed, all the money is there for you to take. But this is not the case, 90% of the money is in 1 % of vaults ie. pockets. And 10% may get a big piece, enough to ignore the incredibly large inequitable reality and most get just enough not to have the guts to revolt or protest. Then again, they arrest you for that nowadays. Here is an Amazing video on the reality of this inequity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhZ7cUFGDGc
Unknown Brain 1283
Answered at 5:10pm on December 19th, 2012
and what of your taxes? do you own a business? do you own a home? id be the man who would pay nothing. & its not because i am without value. it is because i am young. it is because the rich and powerful have stolen from me since. god forbid a politician equalize opportunities for young men with high hopes.
Louis Ayensu-Mensah 1665
Answered at 6:41pm on November 20th, 2012
The point you're trying to convey is logical but very flawed in the sense that this is not what happens when it comes to taxation and tax breaks. Taxes are dependent and generally run based on earnings (income) and not the expenditure of those earnings (there is an effect on certain expenses but that's another page of explanation). But let't take this for an example, assuming a system of flat rates (which isn't exactly right but let's use it for this example), I don't think a person earning $100 and paying $5 for tax would complain when a person who earns $1000 pays $50 for tax on the bases that he is allowed to keep more money.
Korneel Hu 1248
Answered at 2:31pm on November 19th, 2012
If it would be like this it would be perfect. The problem is that it isn't like this.
Leah Tedesco 1701
Answered at 2:09pm on November 19th, 2012
That's nonsense. The wealthy benefit the most from the system. The reason why they started to off-shore their businesses and bank accounts was because of deregulation and greed, not because they were taxed too highly.
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