A whole lot of mess, help?

A whole lot of mess, help?

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For some reason, I've never stayed single for long between boyfriends. It's not that I go man-hopping; these usually end up being relatively long-term, happy, seemingly perfect relationships, until something finally goes wrong and ruins it all. They're all great up until the very end, and usually the relationships end on very good terms.

The first two guys I dated lasted two and a half years and nine months. It might seem significant, but these were high-school relationships and we all know those don't last well. I just didn't know what I wanted. It's not that there was anything especially wrong with these guys, it's just that they weren't right for me. At the time, I was growing up in an environment that was completely different from the one I'd had in childhood and was making do with what I had.

When I got to college, I found the same environment I'd grown up with. There was every race and religion around, and I'd grown up on a college campus. It was great and I thought that maybe my relationships would change, but I still can't seem to find the right guy. Something's always a little "off." I dated a guy for about ten months and then found out he'd been on drugs. He was really good about hiding it, but I've refused to have anything to do with him ever since. I started dating another guy and that also lasted about ten months, until we both agreed that we were destined to fail and it just was not going to work; it didn't help that he stood by and let his (very traditional) Chinese mother tell him he could have me as a college fling / fuck-buddy (excuse the language), but could never hope for anything more because I was white, whereas my family was open to him from the start. Regardless, it's not his fault that his mother was born in Hong Kong, and we ended that relationship on really good terms anyway. We're still friends.

I've been dating another guy whose family really likes me, and I really like them (they're Indian). He gets on well with my family and my family likes him. It's been since some time in late August or early September, we don't really keep track of these things, but I just have this sense of foreboding about the relationship. It doesn't feel right. He's a great guy, but I dread him coming over to my apartment because I can't stand to be around him. He always shows up unannounced and expects me to make food and chai for him; I realize that this is probably because of the way his mother brought him up and I'm not saying it's an altogether bad thing, it just adds to the pile. I hate everything about him. I don't find him attractive, mentally or physically. He's into journalism and politics (and likes to argue them), whereas I'm into medicine and biology, and he tries to argue the subjects (unsuccessfully) that he least understands. He has no idea when I'm angry with him or don't want to be around him, and he's completely socially retarded.

He's a very nice guy, but the more I'm around him the more I find wrong with him. I know this is destined to fail and I can't fathom why in the world I ever started to date him anyway, but I can't figure out how to break it off with him. He's never had a girlfriend before; he was born here and isn't a fob, he's just socially retarded. I know that if I broke up with him it would probably induce a nervous breakdown, but I don't want to have to suffer because I feel like I need to protect his mental status. I don't want to be a complete bitch, either, but I'm not going to suffer just for his happiness. I was contemplating trying to get him to break up with me, but that doesn't seem to be working and it doesn't seem to be wise. What should I do?

I have a really good guy friend who understands my sentiments and thinks I should end this as soon as possible. I agree with him, but I know that this friend also has interest in me. This friend is a great guy and we get along very well, but our universities are well over an hour apart and he's the only one with a car. I know that if I lived closer to him he'd be interested in a relationship, but given that I live so far away, I've got a feeling that he'd be more inclined to be friends with benefits. I don't want to be a fling and I don't believe in friends with benefits; I think it devalues relationships and intimacies. He knows this and he knows I have no interest in ever being just his booty call, but we are still very interested in each other. He respects my wishes and would be content, although disappointed, if we couldn't make long distance work.

We're both great artists, although for different media, and we're both huge nerds at heart, although he's more into fantasy and I'm more of an academic nerd. We're both going into medicine, and although I find him to be a little more of a coconut (brown and hairy on the outside, white on the inside) than I generally like my Indian men, we both have the same level of respect for and interest in his culture; I think he's still getting used to the fact that I speak far more Hindi than he does. He keeps his Indian-ness to himself and I broadcast mine, but when we get to talking about it, it just works. I can't explain why, but it's like two puzzle pieces that just fit together. We're even both equally religious members of sister faiths (he's Hindu, I'm Buddhist), which he finds fascinating. Everything about the way we interact with each other suggests that we'd be perfect for each other, and I can't stress enough how well we get along.

Provided that I figure out how to deal with my hanger-on, what do you think I should do with this friend? He's an excellent guy and the only problem is that we're long distance. I don't want to feel like I'm man-hopping or jumping on someone else too soon, but I've known this friend for a lot longer than I have known the guy I'm with now, and that relationship is so destined to fail it isn't even funny.

For the record, I've never cheated, never will cheat, and have no intentions of cheating. I just need help figuring out what to do with these two guys. Your thoughts?

Asked by Anonymous in Dating at 8:23pm on December 18th, 2009
Tonee Cabotage 1092
Answered at 7:12am on December 23rd, 2009
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Duran Jagarnath New Brain
Answered at 1:47am on December 22nd, 2009
This situation sounds so familiar to me let me guess you Gemini if i was the new and interesting guy i would understand, the way you felt however remember True Love only comes by a handful times in a life time, and secondly stop worrying about the future so much, and stop wasting your friends time, because you could be hold him back from finding his true love.~~~
Jim Williams 2367 Buddha Brain Funny Brain Rebel Brain
Answered at 12:09am on December 20th, 2009
A tad confused regarding current "relationship". This seems to be 99% stress. .25% pleasure and .75% I have no idea..... To me this is a no brainer if one ever existed. No discussion necessary...dump it and dump it hard. Why be concerned about staying friends? Are you going to live on campus for the balance of your life...I doubt it... the friendship would only last as long as you have contact so... no stresser there.

Long distance "relationship"??? Why the need to label? You don't seek a relationship...it grows. Call it what you will "Friends with benefits" or "Friends with ...oops did we do that??" Knock off the labels honey, leave them for canned goods. Your in College, right? College is your priority, right? What a perfect scenario!!!! There are so many ways to keep in touch on a daily basis without interfering with your studies and the limited time you do get to spend together will be quality time. Just let nature take it's course. Plus...and this I believe will be a BIG plus... it will give you the time you need to have a life of your own without a daily dose of testosterone cluttering up the works. Learn to be happy with yourself and you will be happy forever, no matter what life throws at you.

It is not completely unnatural to feel the way you do. Many people, including myself if truth be told, have committed to "relationships" simply to avoid being alone. To us it just seems unnatural any other way. All we end up doing is hurting ourselves. A series of bad memories and baggage carried from one place to another. Each adding to the insecurity that we alone have created. We are strong of heart but weak of will. Took a very long time for me to realize just how tolerant I was ... for no reason at all. I think you get what I mean. Break the pattern, even if it means trying something completely UN-natural.

Cheers :) Jim
Sarika Kulkarni 2092
Answered at 6:43pm on December 19th, 2009
Me thinks you just need someone to hover around you.. sit down and think what actually you seek in relationship.. as far as i know NOBODY is perfect
Melissa Merritt 2399 Brainpower Score Funny Brain Rebel Brain
Answered at 10:37pm on December 18th, 2009
Well, first of all, if you're not into your bf, dump him. It's not fair (to him) to be with someone you don't like, regardless of whether or not your sentiments are reasonable. (And yours are, as it's one thing to want your cooking but to bitch at you like you're some kind of servant--not cool!) But even for lesser reasons--Let them find someone who will worship them, they deserve better than me...is whut I say. Breaking up with someone is not "bitchy" unless ya live under the friggin taliban. ;) And why should they be with someone who dislikes everything they do? *shrugs* Set 'em free. Set 'em AAAALLLLLL free....

Even if ya dump someone for a completely jerky reason like ur jealous of someone they're TALKING to.....you are still doing them a favor by sparing them of your pathological ass ;) (not referring to u obviously just sayin. that breaking up is not "bitchy." I hate it when someone who got dumped (which happens to ALL OF US) act like the other person friggin murdered them or something.....as if staying in that relationship were YOUR friggin duty, which would then comes down to the world revolving around THEM AND THEIR WANTS, since ur needs are obviously unimportant compared to theirs. make sense?

but this guy will be addressed again at the bottom because of something I DID notice here in ur question that reeaallllly gave me pause.

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Once you've broken up, if you do, I say date the second guy if you want to. Half of the badness of "man-hopping" is that women are not supposed to "hop." I'm sick o' that shit. What is life without some nice HOPPIN' here and there. I'm sick of it being soooo much trashier if it's a woman. Or trashy at all, because as long as it's your life, who are others to boss you around? It's between you and God. Or you and yourself. Or whatever. So I don't recommend cheating, at all, but beyond that, do what you want.

Rebounding has a bad reputation, also, because they do not tend to "last." But so what. You don't have to "last" all the time. We're only human, have some fun. (Also, if it's long-distance, it is less likely to "last" anyway. Not that they DON'T last or turn into something serious EVER, I'm just saying, it's important that you don't put pressure on yourself to "last" with someone, especially if you JUST got out of something. that is whut leads to....being with a bf you don't like!!!)

When I say do what you want regarding Door (oops I mean Guy) #2, I also emphasize, that in order to DO what you want, you need to first KNOW what you want. You mentioned you have difficulty with that and boy can I relate. Since I tend to (wrongly) think of all, ALL men as abusers, my wants change like the wind ;) And that's the other thing. Sometimes we think "I must not really know what I want," when in fact we do, but what we want just changed. We KNEW what we wanted BOTH times, but we were thrown off by the fact that it CHANGED.

So what. Changing. People do that. It's life. You aren't a bad or confused person just because you CHANGE. All that means is you're normal. When you don't change at all u get stagnant and smelly anyway ;)

I do not believe in intentionally hurting people, but this whole Promise Me You'll Never Hurt Me, Promise You'll Never Change idea that is very pervasive is also somewhat destructive, as it holds people to standards that are downright DIVORCED from reality.

However regarding what is behind door #2, the thing that gave me pause also applies, and will be addressed at the bottom.

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Your relationship history sounds normal to me, even on the stable side--we all get bad apples here and there, so I wouldn't worry. But I do need to ask if you have a fear of being single. Maybe you don't, but "constant" long relationships (including with guys that by your own admission, you are not even into) makes me recommend that you ask yourself that. Picture yourself single--does it scare you? If so, why? If it DOES scare you, I would recommend remaining single for awhile after breaking up with your bf, as this fear needs to be faced. You mention you don't like friends with benefits, which is totally fine--but MAY sometimes lead to committing more quickly than one should. Or worse, committing FOR THE SAKE OF COMMITMENT, NOT THE PERSON--an opposite extreme that ALSO can cheapen the relationship, badly, as you CAN wind up committed to someone you barely know. Can't get much more cheapened than that!

It would prolly be BEST to take a break from guys altogether. But this leads to what "gave me pause." First you expressed the fact that you never stay single for long. Then you expressed your annoyance with your current bf. LASTLY you mentioned that you have a guy friend that you are interested in. So I have to ask: did you start to dislike your bf BEFORE or AFTER you met/started to like this male friend?

Because if it's after, I'm concerned that you may not even be emotionally independent enough to THINK about pulling away from your bf until there is another possibility on the horizon. Similar to not quitting your job till you've secured another one, even if you hate it. Do you do that with bfs? Because this "chronology" faintly smacks of codependent/overly dependent tendencies to me (that fear of being single I was talking about.)

If this is the case, please get away from all guys for a good while. And while you're at it, try and see if there are any possible origins for this in your family background. (e.g. absentee father, sickness in the family that led you to be a caregiver from an early age, or some other thing that you would know about better than me)

Best of luck!
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